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NT 4.0 cannot see my W2K partition - any hints?
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Stefan Bischof
2003-10-03 16:49:53 UTC
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My NT 4.0 (SP6a) is on a primary partition (drive c:), my Win2K (SP4)
on a logical drive in an extended partition. W2K can see the NT 4.0
drive , but not vice versa. Are there any drivers that I can copy to
make NT see the W2K drive?

Have looked in various archives for this poblem , but could't find it.
If this question has been covered, please point me to a URL.

TIA,
-Stefan
Ghostrider
2003-10-04 00:55:08 UTC
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Post by Stefan Bischof
My NT 4.0 (SP6a) is on a primary partition (drive c:), my Win2K (SP4)
on a logical drive in an extended partition. W2K can see the NT 4.0
drive , but not vice versa. Are there any drivers that I can copy to
make NT see the W2K drive?
Have looked in various archives for this poblem , but could't find it.
If this question has been covered, please point me to a URL.
TIA,
-Stefan
How was the Win2K partition formatted - FAT32? Take a look at
www.sysinternals.com for programs that might allow Windows NT
to look into a FAT32 partition.
c***@nospam.com
2003-10-04 06:47:11 UTC
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Post by Ghostrider
Post by Stefan Bischof
My NT 4.0 (SP6a) is on a primary partition (drive c:), my Win2K (SP4)
on a logical drive in an extended partition. W2K can see the NT 4.0
drive , but not vice versa. Are there any drivers that I can copy to
make NT see the W2K drive?
Have looked in various archives for this poblem , but could't find it.
If this question has been covered, please point me to a URL.
TIA,
-Stefan
How was the Win2K partition formatted - FAT32? Take a look at
www.sysinternals.com for programs that might allow Windows NT
to look into a FAT32 partition.
Also, the NT4 install must be at least SP4 (or was it SP3) which
updates the NTFS support to the version used in W2K/XP.

-Chris
Stefan Bischof
2003-10-04 11:57:06 UTC
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Also, the NT4 install must be at least SP4 (or was it SP3) which
updates the NTFS support to the version used in W2K/XP.
-Chris
As I already wrote, NT has got SP6a. And the W2K systenm is NTFS.
Thank you for your reply.
-S.
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c***@nospam.com
2003-10-04 16:45:51 UTC
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On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 13:57:06 +0200 (CEST), "Stefan Bischof"
Post by Stefan Bischof
Post by c***@nospam.com
Also, the NT4 install must be at least SP4 (or was it SP3) which
updates the NTFS support to the version used in W2K/XP.
-Chris
As I already wrote, NT has got SP6a. And the W2K systenm is NTFS.
Thank you for your reply.
-S.
Sorry, I missed that fact that SP6a was already installed.

I have run into this before when the NT4 system was installed onto a
FAT partition. Then another NT4 nstall was installed, creating a new
NTFS partition using the installer.

The problem was that the original NT4 system did not have the NTFS
driver running. Try looking under the devices control panel and see
if there is a ntfs driver that is disabled or set to manual. I would
set it to system rather than boot because if the driver fails to load
correctl, you'll blue screen on boot. I don't have a NT4 system handy
to tell you the exact device driver name, but I think the actual file
is ntfs.sys.

Incidentally, what does windisk think of the partition? I think even
if the ntfs driver isn't loaded, it should properly identify it based
on the partition table. If it doesn't see the whole disk, I would
ensure you have the MS IDE drivers loaded. I've had problems with the
PIXIDE drivers not seeing the whole drive and causing missing
partitions.

-Chris
Stefan Bischof
2003-10-05 19:24:46 UTC
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The problem was that the original NT4 system did not have the NTFS
driver running. Try looking under the devices control panel and see
if there is a ntfs driver that is disabled or set to manual.
W2K brought a new ntfs.sys to the NT 4.0 system because the W2K installation
changes all present NTFS partitions which it can see to NTFS 5. Two years ago
this had the consequence that due to the old ntfs.sys Windows NT 4.0 couldn't
boot from its own partition. This has been changed in the W2K installation
procedure. W2K copies a file named ntfs40.sys to ntfs.sys to the \winnt\drivers
directory of the NT 4.0 system. So what I want to say is: Yes, NT 4.0 has got a
working ntfs.sys driver to see its own partition. The question remains why it
cannot see the W2K partition. Grmbl.
Post by c***@nospam.com
Incidentally, what does windisk think of the partition? I think even
if the ntfs driver isn't loaded, it should properly identify it based
on the partition table. If it doesn't see the whole disk, I would
ensure you have the MS IDE drivers loaded. I've had problems with the
PIXIDE drivers not seeing the whole drive and causing missing
partitions.
OK, I have to check that. Just what is windisk and where can it be obtained?

Thanks a lot for taking the trouble. ;-)

Regards,
-Stefan
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Stefan Bischof
2003-10-05 19:26:54 UTC
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OK, I have to check that. Just what is windisk and where can it be obtained?
I obviously typed the above message before thinking. Sorry. That's the drive
manager (translation from German to English), right?
Thanks,
-Stefan
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c***@nospam.com
2003-10-05 20:44:52 UTC
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On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:24:46 +0200 (CEST), "Stefan Bischof"
Post by Stefan Bischof
Post by c***@nospam.com
The problem was that the original NT4 system did not have the NTFS
driver running. Try looking under the devices control panel and see
if there is a ntfs driver that is disabled or set to manual.
W2K brought a new ntfs.sys to the NT 4.0 system because the W2K installation
changes all present NTFS partitions which it can see to NTFS 5. Two years ago
this had the consequence that due to the old ntfs.sys Windows NT 4.0 couldn't
boot from its own partition. This has been changed in the W2K installation
procedure. W2K copies a file named ntfs40.sys to ntfs.sys to the \winnt\drivers
directory of the NT 4.0 system. So what I want to say is: Yes, NT 4.0 has got a
working ntfs.sys driver to see its own partition. The question remains why it
cannot see the W2K partition. Grmbl.
Post by c***@nospam.com
Incidentally, what does windisk think of the partition? I think even
if the ntfs driver isn't loaded, it should properly identify it based
on the partition table. If it doesn't see the whole disk, I would
ensure you have the MS IDE drivers loaded. I've had problems with the
PIXIDE drivers not seeing the whole drive and causing missing
partitions.
OK, I have to check that. Just what is windisk and where can it be obtained?
It's the Windows Disk Manager. Just run 'windisk.exe' from
start->run.

-Chris

Stefan Bischof
2003-10-04 11:56:01 UTC
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Post by Ghostrider
How was the Win2K partition formatted - FAT32? Take a look at
www.sysinternals.com for programs that might allow Windows NT
to look into a FAT32 partition.
No, the W2K system is NTFS. So NT 4 is supposed to see it. :-/
Thanks.
-S.
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